Arthur Fleck and Batman belong in different universes, but Todd Phillips thinks the iconic villain would be "in awe" of the Caped Crusader.

And now we know. Looks like rather than trying to make Batman smile or fight him in the streets of Gotham, Arthur would end up being amazed by the beloved DC hero. This might be surprising for hardcore fans of the comics, but the character is a new creation that isn't operating by the same rules as Mr. J.

"I think Arthur always had a fascination with men at ease, and he is not a man at ease. Murray Franklin in the first movie was a man at ease," Phillips continued. "He probably saw the guys he worked with as men at ease, and that was the one thing that Arthur could never be was a man at ease."

Joker hit doesn't take place in the main cinematic DC Universe but in the DC Elseworlds. That's how the supervillain Joker is turned into Arthur Fleck, and the film doesn't include Batman as the ultimate savior in Fleck's Gotham City.